a sister city to philadelphia 15 million people, fifth largest city in china. it is massive in scale, the number of people in cities, the infrastructure investments that are being made in ports and in bridges and roads. and structural -- structures all across these big cities. and then they're planning other cities. put 2 million people here, put 5 million people here in cities. >> extraordinary. >> so it is almost overwhelming. >> yes. i know that you traveled there with "fortune" magazine's reporter. he was on here earlier this week and said there were two things that people wanted to know most about. that was our fiscal cliff situation and whether or not hillary clinton is going to run for president in 2016. so i want to start with the cliff first. what were the concerns? >> the concerns were that the united states of america, the great nation that we are, the largest economy in the world. and the world is watching to see. i was asked directly, what's going on in washington. they're concerned about gridlock as well as many americans are. and i try to give so